Friday, February 19, 2010

Response to Ty & Crystal Ball.

"Bito, if you have a question about rules you can contact rules@kickball.com.

Geoff, email me and remind me of the situation from last week. I don't remember it being shortened but its been a busy couple of weeks. The moment of silence only lasted a couple of minutes and started before 8pm so there shouldn't have been much trouble there.

We used to be able to control the lights directly before the field renovations. Now the lights are remotely controlled somewhere in Iowa or something crazy like that. Once they go out we can't turn them back on. At some point in the season as the days get longer we will be able to have them stay on until 9:30 because they won't have to be turned on as early. We are getting pretty close to that right now.

Really, if the games start on time there really shouldn't be much problem with getting the games completed in an hour unless teams take too long between innings or there is an injury or something like that.

Really, if you have a question, ask me directly. I really don't check the blog very often. I have to sometimes laugh when I have seen people post things complaining about why I haven't done this or that or why I am not answering whatever when that same person has never come to me to ask."



Ty, why would I email someone for an answer we both already know?

Maybe Hitler wouldn't be mad if you didn't respond to rhetorical questions with goofball answers. And try to put one over on us.

Also maybe you see it as complaining; other people might see it as the natives getting restless. We are not trying to be dicks. We are just venting about what we pay for and what we expect.

If things don’t change I could easily see a mass exodus to Kickball Society or even a few guys like myself and Chandler saying starting our own non-profit league. I’ve got spare time. Plus it can't be that hard. We already have everything in place.

We have a board.

We have fields.

We have established players and teams.

We have a bar.

We already have the premier weblog on the intertubes as well.

And with these plans we would have way more money/power and WAKA would be relegated to Tuesday Nights and finding fields with Kickball Society, TBCS and whoever else.

As a matter of fact here is how that would work.

WAKA Finances in an Educated Guess Fashion:
380 players pay $69 a season. 380 X $69 = $26,220
WAKA is a business. They have to make a profit, pay for the website, advertising, people like Ty, Tshirts Supplies etc. I’ve listed 3 different cuts that they probably take.
Lower -End WAKA cut of 30% = $7,866
Higher – End WAKA cut of 60% = $15,732
Split the difference and go with a WAKA cut of 45% = $11,799
Social Money for parties and such is about 15% = $3,933


So WAKA starts off with a gross of $26,220
45% or $11,799 goes to WAKA
15% or $3,933 goes to Social Money
That leaves 40% or $10,488
I’m willing to bet that all of that goes to PAL.

Plus there is also a sponsor bar. That probably is a negligible amount since any startup league would need one as well.

So maybe I should set up a 501(c)(3) (A non-profit organization) Guess who just so happens to know how to set one up and run it?? (If you said Bito, one gold star for you) and call it “Double Barrel Kickball – Twice the Fun. Twice the Danger” and then have everyone wants to play “Donate” $65(everyone likes to save money)

That would break down like this
DBK Gross = $24,700
Supplies, balls, bases, cones, etc. 3% = $741
T-Shirts 12% = $2964
Social 25% = $6,175
“Donation” to PAL 60% = $14,820

We all know PAL is money hungry. They would give us Thursday nights in a heartbeat. Hell we would be offering them nearly 40% more than WAKA, and asking for nothing more in return. Except lights until 9:30pm.

Also socially we would have 50% more money to work with. That is always fun.

Uh- oh. We are in the Danger Zone now.

We all know Thursday night in WAKA is super popular. DBK might just say fuck it. Lets go ahead and expand to 20 teams. Only this time we are lowering our “Donation” to $60.

There is more than enough room for one more field. That would give us 2 conferences of 10. 9 games round robin, play your sibling in the other league your 10th week. Oh and more tourney games too. Also we’d have about 460 – 480 Players. 460 player gives us even more bargaining power with Mac’s or any other bar. Oh and PAL could make more parking $$ too.


Lets look at the finances of DBK’s Danger Zone League
DBK DZ Gross(460 Players) = $27,600
Supplies, balls, bases, cones, etc. 3% = $828
T-Shirts 12% = $3312
Social 25% = $6,900
“Donation” to PAL 60% = $16,560


Hmm I bet PAL would love another:
DBK Annual Donation difference over WAKA = $8,000
DBK DZ Annual Donation Difference over WAKA = $13,000

So this plan is everything we currently have and but no WAKA intrusion/annoyance.
Oh and you save money.

I wonder how infrequently Ty will read this post.

7 comments:

MJ said...

Insurance is a bitch, add that into there...Me and Yella looked into it. Bitch to start your own league...

MJ said...

It's a bitch to start your own league I meant.

Ryan said...

You probably looked into a for profit business.

PAL is a non profit organization. Just like DBK/DBK DZ would be. That makes things a little different.

PAL has insurance. They are just donating the use of their land to another 501c3. We give them a hefty donation. They donate their fields. And buy more shiny ATV's, Flashlights and Lighting Systems controlled by Big Brother.


Plus what would DBK/DBK DZ insure? WAKA doesn't provide insurance for us. If Nate breaks my leg next week, WAKA isn't going to pony up money for my hospital bills. They make it clear when you sign up, that you must have health insurance.

Also, DBK/DBK DZ doesn't have any assests. No employees. Sue us all you want. I'd just start another one.

MJ said...

If you can do it, got for it!!

MJ said...

Go for it - speling liek Cathy now

Robes said...

Getting the participation to fill a full league would be your biggest challenge in a new league

YellowBird said...

Getting thursday nights at PAL may be more difficult than you think.

If so, I bet DBK could rent the Temple Terrace fields from Kickball Society on thursdays.